diff --git a/manifest b/manifest
index f410abbe68..a632e75473 100644
--- a/manifest
+++ b/manifest
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
-C Avoid\sundesirable\sNL\sto\sCRLF\stranslation\swhen\sdoing\sbinary\soutput\sto\sthe\nWindows\sconsole.
-D 2024-10-11T14:02:48.369
+C Fix\sthe\sCSV\soutput\smode\sin\sthe\sCLI\ssuch\sthat\sthe\sline\sending\sis\sNL\sby\sdefault\nbut\sgoes\sto\sCRLF\sif\s".crnl\son"\sis\sset.\s\sMake\sthe\s.crnl\scommand\savailable\son\nnon-Windows\sbuilds.\s\sUpdate\sthe\s.crnl\scommand\ssuch\sthat\sif\sit\shas\sno\sarguments\nit\sshows\sthe\scurrent\ssetting.
+D 2024-10-11T14:30:58.752
 F .fossil-settings/empty-dirs dbb81e8fc0401ac46a1491ab34a7f2c7c0452f2f06b54ebb845d024ca8283ef1
 F .fossil-settings/ignore-glob 35175cdfcf539b2318cb04a9901442804be81cd677d8b889fcc9149c21f239ea
 F LICENSE.md df5091916dbb40e6e9686186587125e1b2ff51f022cc334e886c19a0e9982724
@@ -770,7 +770,7 @@ F src/random.c 606b00941a1d7dd09c381d3279a058d771f406c5213c9932bbd93d5587be4b9c
 F src/resolve.c c8a5372b97b2a2e972a280676f06ddb5b74e885d3b1f5ce383f839907b57ef68
 F src/rowset.c 8432130e6c344b3401a8874c3cb49fefe6873fec593294de077afea2dce5ec97
 F src/select.c 4b14337a2742f0c0beeba490e9a05507e9b4b12184b9cd12773501d08d48e3fe
-F src/shell.c.in 0701ac81f16d1b23254f141118ea064c33c153d7099d3bf7db650ce45eead689
+F src/shell.c.in 46fa7b8be665d17c9593fbf40299ee799e6a932a9b59e7f2e5c686f574136cae
 F src/sqlite.h.in 1def838497ad53c81486649ce79821925d1ac20a9843af317a344d507efe116e
 F src/sqlite3.rc 5121c9e10c3964d5755191c80dd1180c122fc3a8
 F src/sqlite3ext.h 3f046c04ea3595d6bfda99b781926b17e672fd6d27da2ba6d8d8fc39981dcb54
@@ -2216,8 +2216,8 @@ F vsixtest/vsixtest.tcl 6195aba1f12a5e10efc2b8c0009532167be5e301abe5b31385638080
 F vsixtest/vsixtest.vcxproj.data 2ed517e100c66dc455b492e1a33350c1b20fbcdc
 F vsixtest/vsixtest.vcxproj.filters 37e51ffedcdb064aad6ff33b6148725226cd608e
 F vsixtest/vsixtest_TemporaryKey.pfx e5b1b036facdb453873e7084e1cae9102ccc67a0
-P bcfae7183e92ce37717852bae5b1dd526903fa8429fb6f738c2147d4e5231642
-R ce21189a126f3d2c64453710bc34a276
+P d25bdce36abed95524ad058a277aba7bb17270e7ff1476474713dbc29742c762
+R 1814f31c76f5b99a165395372f50c6cf
 U drh
-Z 1e590b34c76a965a6a2ae1e5a7b7871c
+Z d664c82762a3265052efdefacef5a18c
 # Remove this line to create a well-formed Fossil manifest.
diff --git a/manifest.uuid b/manifest.uuid
index e116a9db35..77aea442ee 100644
--- a/manifest.uuid
+++ b/manifest.uuid
@@ -1 +1 @@
-d25bdce36abed95524ad058a277aba7bb17270e7ff1476474713dbc29742c762
+da750e39df7bf42330d8c8b266300da07247c9619895861b4cff4be7c94db7cf
diff --git a/src/shell.c.in b/src/shell.c.in
index 5a90fec7e0..ec32acca78 100644
--- a/src/shell.c.in
+++ b/src/shell.c.in
@@ -1629,13 +1629,7 @@ static const char *modeDescr[] = {
 #define SEP_Tab       "\t"
 #define SEP_Space     " "
 #define SEP_Comma     ","
-#ifdef SQLITE_U8TEXT_ONLY
-  /* With the SQLITE_U8TEXT_ONLY option, the output will always be in
-  ** text mode.  The \r will be inserted automatically. */
-# define SEP_CrLf      "\n"
-#else
-# define SEP_CrLf      "\r\n"
-#endif
+#define SEP_CrLf      "\n"   /* Use ".crnl on" to get \r\n line endings */
 #define SEP_Unit      "\x1F"
 #define SEP_Record    "\x1E"
 
@@ -2801,13 +2795,21 @@ static int shell_callback(
         for(i=0; i<nArg; i++){
           output_csv(p, azCol[i] ? azCol[i] : "", i<nArg-1);
         }
-        sqlite3_fputs(p->rowSeparator, p->out);
+        if( p->crnlMode && cli_strcmp(p->rowSeparator,SEP_CrLf)==0 ){
+          sqlite3_fputs("\r\n", p->out);
+        }else{
+          sqlite3_fputs(p->rowSeparator, p->out);
+        }
       }
       if( nArg>0 ){
         for(i=0; i<nArg; i++){
           output_csv(p, azArg[i], i<nArg-1);
         }
-        sqlite3_fputs(p->rowSeparator, p->out);
+        if( p->crnlMode && cli_strcmp(p->rowSeparator,SEP_CrLf)==0 ){
+          sqlite3_fputs("\r\n", p->out);
+        }else{
+          sqlite3_fputs(p->rowSeparator, p->out);
+        }
       }
       setCrnlMode(p);
       break;
@@ -4952,9 +4954,7 @@ static const char *(azHelp[]) = {
   ".clone NEWDB             Clone data into NEWDB from the existing database",
 #endif
   ".connection [close] [#]  Open or close an auxiliary database connection",
-#if defined(_WIN32)
-  ".crnl on|off             Translate \\n to \\r\\n.  Default ON",
-#endif
+  ".crnl on|off             Translate \\n to \\r\\n sometimes.  Default OFF",
   ".databases               List names and files of attached databases",
   ".dbconfig ?op? ?val?     List or change sqlite3_db_config() options",
 #if SQLITE_SHELL_HAVE_RECOVER
@@ -8573,17 +8573,13 @@ static int do_meta_command(char *zLine, ShellState *p){
   }else
 
   if( c=='c' && n==4 && cli_strncmp(azArg[0], "crnl", n)==0 ){
-#if !defined(_WIN32)
-    sqlite3_fputs("The \".crnl\" command is disable in this build.\n", p->out);
-#else
     if( nArg==2 ){
       p->crnlMode = booleanValue(azArg[1]);
       setCrnlMode(p);
     }else{
-      eputz("Usage: .crnl on|off\n");
-      rc = 1;
+      sqlite3_fprintf(stderr, "crnl is currently %s\n",
+                      p->crnlMode ? "ON" : "OFF");
     }
-#endif
   }else
 
   if( c=='d' && n>1 && cli_strncmp(azArg[0], "databases", n)==0 ){
@@ -12620,9 +12616,11 @@ static void main_init(ShellState *data) {
   /* By default, come up in O_BINARY mode.  That way, the default output is
   ** the same for Windows and non-Windows systems.  Use the ".crnl on"
   ** command to change into O_TEXT mode to do automatic NL-to-CRLF
-  ** conversions on output for Windows.  Windows console output is not
-  ** subject to the crnlMode setting and is unaffected either way. This
-  ** setting only affects output going into a file or pipe. */
+  ** conversions on output for Windows.
+  **
+  ** End-of-line marks on CVS output is CRLF when in .crnl is on and
+  ** NL when .crnl is off.
+  */
   data->crnlMode = 0;
 }