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| From pgsql-general-owner+M10387@postgresql.org Mon Jun  4 22:02:55 2001
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| 	Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:42:58 -0400 (EDT)
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| To: Rasmus Resen Amossen <spunk@rhk.dk>
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| cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
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| Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Re: Updating views 
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| In-Reply-To: <3B1C16EC.8D9FB57B@rhk.dk> 
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| References: <20010605001048.A2133@lorien.net> <3B1C16EC.8D9FB57B@rhk.dk>
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| Comments: In-reply-to Rasmus Resen Amossen <spunk@rhk.dk>
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| 	message dated "Tue, 05 Jun 2001 01:17:00 +0200"
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| Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:42:57 -0400
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| Message-ID: <9925.991705377@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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| From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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| Precedence: bulk
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| Sender: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org
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| Status: OR
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| 
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| Rasmus Resen Amossen <spunk@rhk.dk> writes:
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| > OK, but I can't see how to make a single rule that allows me to update
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| > an arbitray set of attributes from an arbitray where-clause.
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| 
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| The reason the system doesn't do that for you is that it's *hard* to
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| figure out what to do for an arbitrary where-clause.  An automatic rule
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| has no chance of doing the right thing, because the right thing depends
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| on what you intend.  For example, if your view has
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| 	select ... where a>5;
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| what do you think ought to happen if someone tries to insert a row
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| with a<5?  Is that an error?  A no-op?  Does the row go in anyway,
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| you just can't see it in the view?  Does the row go into some other
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| table instead?  Is it OK to change the A column at all?  It all depends
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| on the semantics of your database design.  So you have to figure out
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| what you want and write rules that do it.
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| 
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| The mechanics of the rule are not that painful once you've decided what
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| the reverse mapping from inserted/updated data to underlying tables
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| ought to be.  One thing that may help is to realize that you don't need
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| a separate rule for each combination of set of attributes that might be
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| updated.  "new.*" is defined for all columns including the ones that
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| didn't change, so you can just do something like
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| 
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| 	update ... set f1 = new.f1, f2 = new.f2, ...
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| 
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| without worrying about just which columns the user tried to update.
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| Likewise, the where clause in the user's query is not yours to worry
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| about; that condition gets added onto the stuff in your rule.
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| 
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| > In other words: I want to make the update of 'exview' transparent to
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| > 'extable'.
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| 
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| If it's really transparent, one wonders why you bothered with a view
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| at all.  Useful views tend to be nontrivial mappings of the underlying
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| data, which is why it's nontrivial to figure out what the reverse
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| mapping ought to be.
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| 
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| 			regards, tom lane
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