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>> I wouldn't assume that. It's been years since I tested it, but back
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>> then, the command line and all program I used could see the link
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>> created by ln that came with the resource kit. They were distinctly
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>> different from the shortcut type of links, in that they seems
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>> transparent like short cuts in unix generally are.
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> 1. Soft links are available on NTFS 5 (2K/XP) as Reparse Points via the
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> DeviceIoControl() function for any application using the standard C
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> library routines.
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> 2. Soft links are available on any filesystem under 95/98/ME/NT4/2K/XP
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> as OLE streams (.lnk files) for Shell-aware applications.
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> 3. Hard links are available on NTFS 5 (2K/XP) via the CreateHardLink() API.
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> 4. Hard links are available on NTFS (NT3.1/NT4) via the BackupWrite()
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> API by writing a special stream to the NTFS.
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I also believe (I could be wrong) that for directories, the only
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two methods of links are the Soft link methods above. So PGXLOG
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cannot use soft links on a non-XP/2K machine unless it is
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"Shell-Aware". For example, in a cygwin bash command window:
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mkdir dir1
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ln dir1 dir2 <- Error using Cygwin implementation
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ln -s dir1 dir2 <- Creates a Shell short-cut (NT4)
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echo "Hello" > dir1/test.txt
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cat dir2/test.txt
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"Hello" <- Cygwin's cat(bash?) is shell short-cut aware
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notepad dir2\test.txt <- Notepad can't find file
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notepad dir2.lnk <- Displays link contents
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That means for a native port with a different PGXLOG directory
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running on NT4, the only choice *using links* is to make the
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native port shell short-cut aware.
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>>seem to be possible under NT4?
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> shortcut type of links, in that they seems transparent like short cuts in
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1. Soft links are available on NTFS 5 (2K/XP) as Reparse Points
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via the DeviceIoControl() function for any application using the
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standard C library routines.
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2. Soft links are available on any filesystem under
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applications.
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3. Hard links are available on NTFS 5 (2K/XP) via the
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CreateHardLink() API.
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See:
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/base/createhardlink.asp
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4. Hard links are available on NTFS (NT3.1/NT4) via the
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BackupWrite() API by writing a special stream to the NTFS.
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Example:
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http://www.mvps.org/win32/ntfs/lnw.cpp
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The cygwin implementation of link():
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http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/syscalls.cc?rev=1.149.2.23&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=src
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1. Will use CreateHardLink() if on 2K/XP
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2. Will try to use the BackupWrite() method
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3. Failing #2 will just copy the file
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